Haha cross verified. Thanks. Yeah reported ans hubs say they ha e banned this user. They likely saw all the same outbound messages to several hubs and made this same conclusion. Good work all! Keep making. J Should be noted i got both the spammer and scammer enquires 20min apart. Likely same person with different communication fishing techniques.
Youll note i was recommending a warning to customers then a ban. They went straight to ban…likely saw more than we did from their end. These people are not worth dealing with…on or off the network.
Since the messages are almost word for word, you are most definitely right, this guy might have intentions other than just your 3D-printing expertise or want to save a few bucks of fees by dealing under the table (here is the scamming part I understood). These people will always be there. They are the 1%-3% of the internet (no source here but bare with me). And if you want to have system wide surveillance for that 1%-3%, it’s exactly like the NSA. Don’t get used to that and think we have all lost our privacy since then.
So the question here is really what is the long term solution? Similar to the spam advertising incident last week, it may be time to offer users to report other users and will be subjected to review. To me, seeing all these report icons for post and users might make 3DHubs seem less cozy. So the last option is of course to treat this as a single case scenario and move on. 3DHubs cannot be upping their defences every time someone posts something foolish or annoying. Soon all users will require Captchas to log in. So I am for making it clear to hubs about such rules when they sign up and move on.
3dhubs used to HEAVILY monitor communications. As usage went up their ani ity to do so went down. So its on us makers to report. The problem is an eady method to report. They recommended adding a button to do so. Thats a great thing. Easy, leeps tje power in tje jands of 3duubs and makes it so i dont have to publically blast people like this. I also emailed their customer service along side this public post. The reason for posting publically at all is really to remind makers what this about and what is the right course of action for this kind of behavior. Agreed its a small percentage which means they wont need to review that many report button pressesl to review. The bad news for shady hubs… Will be that it wont be public. And when reviewed hubs are found to be indulging with off metwork requests they are subject to ban. Friendly reminder… Theyve always monitored…
I think you are really on to something here in terms of the “bad look” aspect. I also really like concept of being able to say to the rest of the hubs “hey I got this shady message, anyone else seen anything like it/have an opinion/etc” so stuff like the ^above^ can be outed.
Maybe this kind of “inside baseball” stuff should be segregated from the general chat and be in it’s own section. I think it’s very beneficial for the hubs and should help mitigate the need for the kind of overreach you are worried about. I also think there is no reason why potential customers or people just coming here interested in 3d printing in general should have to scroll past this crap that doesn’t interest them.
i also had one of these
without mentioning who it is (3dhubs is notified)… i got this:
“Hi,
We have a project we would like 3D printed but due to confidentiality, we do not want to upload the file onto 3D Hubs platform. We would prefer if we can communicate with you by email if you would be willing to work with us.”
my reply:
“I have asked 3Dhubs to ban your account, this is against everything the 3dhubs idea stands for.”
one can wonder why a polish dude wants something printed at a hub in Denmark… :-/
Me too, I had a message with the exact same text today :-/ Pretty annoying.
Well Guys and Gals., WHAT ABOUT THE DOT COMS??? I cannot understand how these companies get on here, and in their description they give their .com adress? Next you click on their links and there is a place to upload your stl files OFF SITE??? this does not seem like good business either, what do you think? I think they are just stealing traffic from 3d hubs and stealing is all I can see when I look at these .com addresses on here. Seems to be more than 1-3% percent right now… I can’t believe this, I DO NOT think it is right! It is like stealing and I would Love to Flag everyone doing it? BUT maybe I am just jealous because I don’t direct traffic from this site and print parts minus the 3d hubs fees…Please let me know what you guys think!? I just recently saw a 3d hubs mayor in a different country doing this as well? Now I just had one pop up in my own back yard and I DO NOT like this at all! their are getting orders though.lol , but the second page you click on ask for you to upload your model files OffSite? WHY??? this helps NONE OF US! Let me know please your feelings on this(This has been bugging me more and more) now it is ridiculous and time to make it stop/this my opinion what’s yours PLEASE? should I get over myself or should we figure out a way to make this stop? Like most are saying, “3dhubs brings me the business and tools to make this happen”, and are constantly in “standby mode” whenever I or my clients need a little help, not to mention that they are the creators, and in my mind deserve their cut! Thank You for reading this rant please share your thoughts on .com links to sites that steal traffic. thanx again.
There are plenty of dotcoms on 3D hubs. But do they offer a better or quicker service or are they cheaper ?
If i check in my own city, the dotcoms are ranked on the 3 - 4 page.
I can understand that customers are more preferred to work outside 3dhubs.
- Email is right in their work environment.
- They don’t need to login on another platform.
- They have to pay less. (i think 12.5 percent fee is a lot)
So in my opinion. 3Dhubs should improve in a direction that people would love to work through the website.
On the other hand, i also can understand hubs would love to work outside 3dhubs for the same reasons plus.
When you are in personal contact with a satisfied customer. He probably will contact you again for the next order.
every story has a different side.
I am using the powertools atm. I did not receive 1 order trough that gate.