Minor error on Marvin

3drapidprints · 2016-09-05T00:03:52.000Z

Hello! What is your bed and extruder temps? Also, what material are you printing in?

Nebbian · 2016-09-05T01:21:44.000Z

Are you printing the outside perimeters first, or the inside first?

wirlybird · 2016-09-05T02:15:59.000Z

I’ll reply for mine, the blue one, since we are having the same problem.

Bed starts at 65 and works down to 55 after 5 layers. PLA at 190 or 200.

wirlybird · 2016-09-05T02:16:30.000Z

For mine, the blue Marvin, it is inside first.

wirlybird · 2016-09-05T02:18:08.000Z

All, since Uranday and I (wirlybird blue Marvin below) are having the same issue with Marvin I am jumping in here to help consolidate questions and answers. Hope nobody minds!

Uranday · 2016-09-05T04:15:38.000Z

Mine is 60 all the way. Printing also in PLA.

Uranday · 2016-09-05T04:17:17.000Z

I have a nozzle fan on all the time. For my last print I added a desk fan on the table full on. No difference. Tonight ill try slowing the print down and see what that does.

Uranday · 2016-09-05T04:18:56.000Z

I dont mind. Lets find what is nagging us. Have now 6 single browed Marvins staring at me

Uranday · 2016-09-05T04:19:58.000Z

For mine also, inside first.

Uranday · 2016-09-05T04:24:28.000Z

Its better when adding the deskfan. (see pic). My next step is printing at a lower speed.

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Perry_1 · 2016-09-05T13:36:23.000Z

OK, this is a “sagging” issue. The filament is falling, as there is nothing beneath it to support it. This is a result of a combination of cooling issues and overextrusion, creating too much material that has no support under it.

For PLA, you need to have active cooling.

You can also increase the cooling setting on your slicer software. That is, increase the pause between each layer, so each layer has more time to cool before the next layer is printed. This allows the print to have better support on it.

Also, print 4 marvins at the same time, or add it to another print you are doing. More printing time per layer = less sag.

Finally, it appears you are slightly over extruding. Measure your filament, make sure it is the set correctly. Extrude slightly less filament.

wirlybird · 2016-09-05T14:11:27.000Z

Ok, so I have the cooling running at full after layer 1.

I have run one at 500mm/min and can watch it sag as soon as it is laid down.

I am going to try 10 degrees lower on the extruder and see what happens.

I need to figure out the bridging area of S3D to see if I can get that setting to help on reducing the extrusion during that area.

Perry_1 · 2016-09-06T13:05:48.000Z

ok, so this is mostly NOT a bridging issue. There is not much bridging going on there.

The bridge is when plastic is stretched from one area to another. In this case, this is a print area where a section is printed, and the extruder turns. Next layer, the section is printed further, and the extruder turns.

Fiddling with bridging is fine, and may help some.

Here is another suggestion: Support material. Click the support icon, choose .1mm, then automatically generate support. (you may have to add some manual supports. In your support settings, choose .2mm offset. this will create a wisp of support in that area, that will easily come off.

But again, this is a cooling issue. Print several at a time.

3drapidprints · 2016-09-06T13:41:14.000Z

Try turning the bed heat off and set the extruder temp to 180. Also, make sure the fan is at 100% while printing.

wirlybird · 2016-09-06T13:54:35.000Z

Thanks for the info. I didn’t think it was really bridging but still learning!

I did print 2 at a time but go the same basic result. I have it pretty good for no support (thinking no support was a requirement for test). I have cooling maxed out and print as low as 500mm/min but back up to 1000mm/min seems to get the same result so sped up for time sake!

I’ll give your support suggestions a try to learn and see how it goes.

wirlybird · 2016-09-06T13:55:20.000Z

I think we are gaining on this sucker!

wirlybird · 2016-09-06T13:56:00.000Z

I’ll give it a shot. Thanks.

wirlybird · 2016-09-06T13:57:13.000Z

Is there a better/recommended fan set up for the Flashforge Creator Pro 2016? It does have the fan for the left extruder.

wirlybird · 2016-09-06T13:59:07.000Z

I have a couple teams now! In different colors. Running two machines on this one!!

Uranday · 2016-09-06T14:07:25.000Z

Thanks for your suggestion. I tried printing at a much lower speed and that didnt gave any result. First I go calibrate my printer and if that does not work I print 4 of them in 1 go to see what that gives. Let you know when its done.