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Aug 2016

While my other post is awaiting approval to go live I’ll repost this. There seems to be little in the way of reviews and user testimonials on the fusion3 F400 printer. I have and have used Delta’s, Flash forge, prusas and a few homemade printers and now have an F400 If anyone wants details, video of prints, walkthroughs or comparisons please reach out. It is a beast of a printer and it works great.

I also have an F400 and can offer the same. Really impressed with this machine!

We’re a re-seller for the F400. It’s an amazing printer. We have an F306 that is one of the best printers we have, and the F400 is far superior to that.

Agreed!

The target customer for Fusion3 is not the same as most 3D printer manufacturers so there is very little information in the 3D print world about the fusion. I stumbled upon it accidentally and want people to know it’s worth a look. Especially if you are, have or have ever considered a makerbot (the fusion actually works even in a business setting).

It’s not just a great printer, though. I had a chance to drive up to NC to see their facility and they are just a great bunch of guys that really know how to make a solid printer that outputs amazing prints. I agree that this is a great printer for business settings. I would get one of these over a Makerbot any day.

You know, per every student who has ordered and picked up prints fusions should be in schools and universities vs makerbots. Hands down. With the inclusion of simplify and premade profiles and the offered enhanced warranty (I don’t have it so I don’t know for sure how good it is) this thing would print great at a school. Vs makerbots. Come to think of it every order I receive from someone who has a printer at home, work or school I receive because their makerbot doesn’t work. Thanks makerbot! Your crappy overpriced junk is getting me orders! I’ll just buy more F400s to keep up with demand.

We’ve worked with several schools and have placed the older F306 in university shops and labs. The 400 is far and above one of the best printers of its type on the market, and the folks at Fusion3 have done a fantastic job listening to their customers and making the printer s serious machine for all kinds of spaces.

How fast are you running the printer? Looks like you’re getting really great surface finish

It runs between 66 and 126 mms at a 100% multiplier. It’s important to take the multiplier into account. Most people who print at 60mms do so with an 80/70/60 or similar set of speed reduction multipliers. The fusion runs at 100/100/100 multipliers for outlines/infill/supports. Right now (the purple print) is ABS at 100mms.

Looking to purchase this printer and even though this would be my first step into 3D printing it looks like it would last me a while and handle my needs for some time.

Can you confirm that you still happy with they printer and its printing well. What’s funny is I started to look at the Zortrax then the makergear, then Cubicon single, now this.

How do prints that cover the bed length come out as far as warping ?

Do the prints come off the build bed easy enough?

thanks for info

If this will be your first step into 3D printing I’d recommend two things. 1) Use the filament Fusion recommends with the printer. 2) Get the advanced/enhanced warranty package. The extra warranty part (which I do not have) includes the ability to call/email and ask questions about printing specific models and how to tune the printer’s settings for the best quality.

Also the fusion is the only one out of the group you mentioned which comes with a simplify 3D license. If you are price comparing, that should be taken into consideration.

Using PVA glue for ABS, PETG and PLA I have had zero issues with warping and zero issues getting prints off the bed.

Gotcha.

Of the many choices of printers out there. Would you recommend this printer as first printer or is it too much printer for me to learn?

thanks

First printer recommendations are really more about matching the use case to the printer. What do you plan on printing? How often? How much time will you have in the same room as the printer? Do you have space or power concerns? What materials do you plan to use? Etc.

Forgot to ask, what other printers did you consider before purchasing this one ?

On plan on printing various architectural models as a biz and setting up a 3D hub here as a biz.

Printing not that often in the beginning until orders hopefully come in.

I won’t be in the same room

No power concerns

I’d like to print in various materials but I assume mostly in ABS and PLA.

Bcn3d sigma, ultimaker 2+ extended, zortrax m200, mankati full scale xt and one or two others. We spent 90 days looking through specs. The fusion is the 12th printer to be bought or built here including prusas, flash forge, Rostock. Right now I’m debating the markforged or another f400.

I got a proposal from chip and the printer is 8 weeks out. Ouch. Might need to consider a different printer.

Agreed. Mine was a preorder and more than 8 weeks. I’m glad I resisted the urge to cancel. Now that I have one I’d wait 3 months for another one.

The fusion, unlike most printers out there, is designed for small businesses. I’ve never run a print for anyone who owns a fusion. As for almost every other model of printer out there (especially makerbot) I’ve run prints due to quality issues, maintenance issues or deadlines for people who own or have access to a 3d printer.

Ya. Spoke to chip this morning. I think it’s worth the wait. Need to line up a few things and place order. A lot for printer for first printer but it will suite me for a while I assume.

Interesting and good info. Well, I’m looking to run a print biz off this printer (fingers crossed).

That why I’m purchasing this one. It will suite my needs.

We’re very happy with our F306, I’m looking forward to getting an F400. It’s definitely worth the wait. I don’t know of another printer that has its particular niche. It’s highly capable, fast and can handle a huge array of materials.

I watched a couple of you YouTube vid and notice a rubber band around the print head. Any reason for it ?

It’s around the bottom of the layer fan. At high speeds I had issues with the fan shroud vibrating more than I’m comfortable with. I’ve never owned a printer that I didn’t make some modifications to. The fusion is no exception. I also out a 120cfm fan on the extruder drive motor. (Way overkill) to prevent jams when using low temp PLA at high speeds.

Of everyone’s other printers you’ve owned, how does the quality of the print compare. I’m not only looking at speed but looking at quality of print.

Thanks. Last question, want to pull trigger soon.

It’s excellent. Much better than most others I have worked with, and I have worked a lot of FDM printers. The selling points for me were: - Excellent print quality - Large enclosed print area - Industrial material capabilities - Uses the excellent E3Dv6 hot end - 2 year warranty

Not sure, actually. I haven’t discussed this with Fusion3 at all, but the metal chassis does have mount points for a second extruder. I’m sure that is in their future plans. Personally, I can do every I need with a single extruder. The breakaway support works really well.

11 months later

We like all of our F400’s!

It uses an E3D V6 (Volcano on the HFR) so you can swap with OEM or Aftermarket nozzles yes. We swap nozzles a few times a week on both models depending on customer orders.

Does it print well at 100mm/s as they advertise or is there some ringing when you get to those speeds? I have an Ultimaker 3 now but looking for something faster for single filament prints.

Fusion3 uses swappable print heads and hardened steel nozzles (not brass). They don’t replace nozzles as that’s unreliable (need to heat to full operating temps (+240*C) with proper equipment to ensure nozzles are properly seated.

260c No special equipment. 2 crescent wrenches will work. Proper nozzle seating is a 101 level task and requires only working eyeballs.

That’s what I was hoping. I know their manual discourages it, but I figured with the v6 that it should be possible.