Fusion3 F400 Q & A and details

SOC3D · 2016-07-22T14:52:39.000Z

I keep an active live feed on the Fusion and there is an archive of previous prints (only from June 20 forward are of the fusion) on youtube. Fusion3 F400 - YouTube

sjohnson_NCSU · 2016-07-27T11:08:17.000Z

How fast are you running the printer? Looks like you’re getting really great surface finish

SOC3D · 2016-07-27T15:55:25.000Z

It runs between 66 and 126 mms at a 100% multiplier. It’s important to take the multiplier into account. Most people who print at 60mms do so with an 80/70/60 or similar set of speed reduction multipliers. The fusion runs at 100/100/100 multipliers for outlines/infill/supports. Right now (the purple print) is ABS at 100mms.

Johnic · 2016-07-31T02:04:01.000Z

Looking to purchase this printer and even though this would be my first step into 3D printing it looks like it would last me a while and handle my needs for some time.

Can you confirm that you still happy with they printer and its printing well. What’s funny is I started to look at the Zortrax then the makergear, then Cubicon single, now this.

How do prints that cover the bed length come out as far as warping ?

Do the prints come off the build bed easy enough?

thanks for info

SOC3D · 2016-07-31T14:11:23.000Z

If this will be your first step into 3D printing I’d recommend two things. 1) Use the filament Fusion recommends with the printer. 2) Get the advanced/enhanced warranty package. The extra warranty part (which I do not have) includes the ability to call/email and ask questions about printing specific models and how to tune the printer’s settings for the best quality.

Also the fusion is the only one out of the group you mentioned which comes with a simplify 3D license. If you are price comparing, that should be taken into consideration.

Using PVA glue for ABS, PETG and PLA I have had zero issues with warping and zero issues getting prints off the bed.

Johnic · 2016-07-31T15:27:33.000Z

Gotcha.

Of the many choices of printers out there. Would you recommend this printer as first printer or is it too much printer for me to learn?

thanks

SOC3D · 2016-07-31T18:53:57.000Z

First printer recommendations are really more about matching the use case to the printer. What do you plan on printing? How often? How much time will you have in the same room as the printer? Do you have space or power concerns? What materials do you plan to use? Etc.

Johnic · 2016-07-31T19:31:33.000Z

Forgot to ask, what other printers did you consider before purchasing this one ?

Johnic · 2016-07-31T19:35:47.000Z

On plan on printing various architectural models as a biz and setting up a 3D hub here as a biz.

Printing not that often in the beginning until orders hopefully come in.

I won’t be in the same room

No power concerns

I’d like to print in various materials but I assume mostly in ABS and PLA.

SOC3D · 2016-07-31T22:18:45.000Z

Bcn3d sigma, ultimaker 2+ extended, zortrax m200, mankati full scale xt and one or two others. We spent 90 days looking through specs. The fusion is the 12th printer to be bought or built here including prusas, flash forge, Rostock. Right now I’m debating the markforged or another f400.

Johnic · 2016-08-01T14:56:56.000Z

I got a proposal from chip and the printer is 8 weeks out. Ouch. Might need to consider a different printer.

AndrewBougie · 2016-08-01T15:12:50.000Z

It’s worth the wait… just my two cents.

SOC3D · 2016-08-01T15:56:33.000Z

Agreed. Mine was a preorder and more than 8 weeks. I’m glad I resisted the urge to cancel. Now that I have one I’d wait 3 months for another one.

SOC3D · 2016-08-01T15:59:19.000Z

The fusion, unlike most printers out there, is designed for small businesses. I’ve never run a print for anyone who owns a fusion. As for almost every other model of printer out there (especially makerbot) I’ve run prints due to quality issues, maintenance issues or deadlines for people who own or have access to a 3d printer.

Johnic · 2016-08-01T16:04:52.000Z

Ya. Spoke to chip this morning. I think it’s worth the wait. Need to line up a few things and place order. A lot for printer for first printer but it will suite me for a while I assume.

Johnic · 2016-08-01T16:21:27.000Z

Interesting and good info. Well, I’m looking to run a print biz off this printer (fingers crossed).

That why I’m purchasing this one. It will suite my needs.

Spectra3D · 2016-08-01T16:43:00.000Z

We’re very happy with our F306, I’m looking forward to getting an F400. It’s definitely worth the wait. I don’t know of another printer that has its particular niche. It’s highly capable, fast and can handle a huge array of materials.

Johnic · 2016-08-01T20:44:35.000Z

I watched a couple of you YouTube vid and notice a rubber band around the print head. Any reason for it ?

SOC3D · 2016-08-01T21:16:54.000Z

It’s around the bottom of the layer fan. At high speeds I had issues with the fan shroud vibrating more than I’m comfortable with. I’ve never owned a printer that I didn’t make some modifications to. The fusion is no exception. I also out a 120cfm fan on the extruder drive motor. (Way overkill) to prevent jams when using low temp PLA at high speeds.

Johnic · 2016-08-02T16:39:52.000Z

Of everyone’s other printers you’ve owned, how does the quality of the print compare. I’m not only looking at speed but looking at quality of print.

Thanks. Last question, want to pull trigger soon.