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Jun 2015

I have done all of the things you mentioned. I will recheck the tightness of the printer. Honestly i think its a micro stepping issue, but i really don’t know much about it and haven’t been able to find much info through google searches

This was a calibration print. I set a print speed of 40 mm/s but it slows down to about 10 mm/s if the layer print time is below 30 sec. Also I can adjust the extrusion percentage lower but the i have a problem where the walls would be to thin and not printed at the desired thickness. I will keep trying

Thanks for you suggestions

it is a smooth rotation then its stops for a fraction of a sec. I don’t think i have noticed it jump.

Layer height is .25, .4 nozzle, 1.75mm filament, at 40 mm/s print speed(Slowed down to 10 mm/s if layer print time is under 60 sec), heatbed at 60 c, and hotend at 220 c (I use a B3 Pico and due to the design it has to run a bit hotter or else it jets jammed)

This object was PLA but also happens with ABS. Also i have used ninjaFlex and it prints out perfectly. I believe it does so becuse of the unique way ninjaFlex prints out and creates a small pressure in the melting chamber so it doen’t matter if the motor start and stops, as long as the delay is not to long.

Honestly I believe it might be a micro stepping issue in the Marlin Firmware but I have had a difficult time finding and info doing google searches.

Thanks!!!

Swap your extruder driver with another axis driver. Readjust pots. If ok, swap out your extruder. If you still have problem then your extruder is fine and pots fine.

What type of control board You could always swap stepper drivers from another axis to see if it changes anything

Switch the e and z before buying and see if it helps. E is most used and z is least used. If it resolves then you know before making any purchases.

Try reduing the layer height and increasing the extrusion width.
Sometimes the extrusion bead will whip around if there is too much space between the nozzle and the previous layer or the substrate. The whipping tends to be effected by that which it is being deposited on which would cause the pattern you are seeing. It is a sort of positive feedback loop where the phenomena perpetuates itself. Let me know if that helps!

Maybe a resonant frequency of the 4 springs that your build plate is mounted to, if you have a mendel prusa. Go to stiffer springs.

Not sure what happened here, but I hope this won’t be the last time you’re commenting here, @! It was a good input, so it must have been a mistake. Hope to see you around here soon :slight_smile:

1 month later

if you have a Persa Mendel like mine your Wobble might be Frame make sure your frame is true and all your Belts and Pulleys are tight and your Z axis is stable Dragging easy fix is more bolts holding the Z screw in place no oscillation.

You’re looking for something with a periodic oscillation and the extruder’s the most likely culprit. You can do a visual inspection by releasing the guidler and removing the filament so you can view the hobbed bolt/gear. Set the temp of the hot end and get the extruder to extrude 100mm (without filament). Watch the gearing for wobble and watch the hobbed bolt/gear for any unusual movement. The chances are you’re getting movement somewhere that isn’t rotational.

What kind of Mount do you have your extruder could be causing the hot end to wiggle in the Mount Or a loose bearing or rod but something that moves in a very repeatable fashion I would guess a off center gear or pulley

10 months later

It is the errors in rounding of the steps in your x y steppers. My mendel does the same when setting steps x=166. Setting to 160 does fix it but my print is not to scale. I can use cura to scale up the model to make up for that.

no that is never the case. my mendelmax has 55 steps per mm and still works perfectly

I took a look at the forum post, from the pictures you seem to be having a different issue than I was having. In my case, I believe my calibration print was printing too slow (like 10mm/sec). whenever i did a regular print and printed between 30-60mm/sec the ripples were not very visible.

In your case, it looks like it is a combination of printing too fast for your particular printer and z-screw wobble.

You might want to print out some z-screw stabilizers and slow down your prints and do a quick test after you have made those modifications.

Good Luck…

1 month later

Found a year old post with a similar problem of mine! did you discover anything? I’m having this issue and I found out a way to make the problem more evident: vary the extrusion multiplier by small amounts. This should give you different inclinations of the effect, from diagonal to vertical and horizontal. I initially thought I was seeing z banding, then I changed the extrusion multiplier and siddenly I got slightly inclined banding! Clearly, the extruder is oscillating proportionally to extrusion rate, creating the pattern.