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May 2017

Have you tried reducing first layer print speed? I don’t have a i3 Plus, just a v2 and v2.1, but when I troubleshoot, I like to turn down print speed much lower just so I can watch what’s happening easier. If you’re printing directly to glass without something like hairspray or glue, it can sometimes be hard for material to stick when printing quickly.

I can’t tell from the video, but I assume the fan is off for the first layer, otherwise that would cause issue as well. As far as the filament curling out the nozzle, that’s normal for all my printers, just one side will naturally cool faster and give it a curved look.

Anyways, try going as far down as 10% print speed just to see what happens and even raising the extrusion temperature a bit to see if it grips the glass better. Just my two cents.

Simple - use an adhesive on the build plate (in theory clean glass should work but I’ve never had a lot of success). Pritt Stick or even better 3D Lac . ABS has a tendancy to warp especially if in an unenclosed build space (like yours). Try PLA or even better PETG (so called ABS substitute without all the grief of ABS). Pardon the puin but stick with it - your doing nothing wrong.

I will certainly try reducing the speed and increasing temperature. You’re right, the videos do not show it but the fan is indeed off.

I could try different filaments. But this one I’ve printed a lot with before the mysterious something happened.

Also, although I mentioned I heated to ABS temperature, I am using PLA made by Inland.

I will order the Micro Swiss hotend. I like the fact it’s all metal, and one video I watched said it lets you print at higher temperatures, opening the door to other materials. Looks like it’s worth the upgrade.

I thought I had damaged the original buildtak surface. It was certainly after I gouged it the problems started. I first replaced it with the spare that came with the printer (way easier to remove and clean than I’ve read). When that didn’t solve the problem I switched to glass.

I should have been clearer in my post: I’m using PLA. The picture I took was after pressing the preheat button for PLA - it got up to 54°C and my thermometer read 50.8°. I tried at various temps and found the thermometer read 3-4° lower than what the printer’s LCD tells me. That was the point I was trying to make. The actual gcodes heated higher (I’ll have to look them up)

As for slicer: I’ve used mostly Slic3r. I’ve tried Cura but found it a bit more difficult. Also, many videos I’ve tried to follow used Slic3r, so using it made it easier to follow.

I can’t wait to try calibration tests - I just can’t get past the first layer or two right now. Although I’ve not varied the flowrate - I’ll give that a try.

I thought Wanhao fixed this. I just bought the printer a week ago (although it could be old stock - I should check the serial).

In any event, I’m not using ABS yet. When I do, I will certainly be careful.

Thanks for the encouragement. What’s the best way to get that initial drip off before printing? I use a stiff card and just kinda scrape it off (usually works, sometimes pushes it more against the nozzle). If there’s enough hanging I chance using my fingers. Said “ouch” once or twice, but no real harm done.

I will probably try hairspray first. The skirt definitely looks like it should help (I said “brim” in my OP, but I meant “skirt”). As you see in my first vid, it didn’t work (not to say I will stop doing that! it still is a good idea)

I don’t even know how, yet, to make changes like this. There’s a menu called PID, but I don’t know what it’s for and am not going to mess with it until I do.

Yup, lots of reading, youtube watching. I am so happy with how eager to help and share the community is (just look at all these responses in less than a day!).

Definitely getting that feeler gauge! Thanks!

During the auto-level, the LCD says to level so the nozzle is 1 mm away from the plate. I know now that’s not correct, but for my first few prints I didn’t. I didn’t have anything 1 mm and I was impatient to print. So I used the spatula (0.7 mm). I printed the unicorn that came with the SD card, and it turned out fine - right out of the box. Weird.

Thanks! I guess I should build an enclosure. Is that to prevent drafts from messing with the temperatures? How much of a difference do you find it makes?

Thanks! I guess I should build an enclosure. Is that to prevent drafts from messing with the temperatures? How much of a difference do you find it makes?

Thank you everyone for your advice. I have a new hope (“Help me Obi Wanhao, you’re my only hope”). Got some playing around to do over the next couple of days. I’ll let you know how it goes.

Update: using 0.1 mm paper to level has, I believe, provided the most benefit. I also started using hairspray and increased the bed temp.

I now can reliably print! I can actually start a print and walk away, knowing it’ll be good. THANK YOU!

The only failed print I’ve had was a very tall model (Z-Alignment by LynchMob_Lerry - Thingiverse 7). I printed both a skirt and a raft, but about half-way up the raft started to curl then separate. Maybe a wider raft; maybe more hairspray. At least now I can tweak instead of hitting instant failure out of the gate.

Good to have you back. 3D printing takes a lot of patience and skills. I also have a Wanhao i3 that I almost gave up on, wanted to sell it on FB groups. My issues were changing/feeding filaments with the stock extruder which made it easier after upgrading to Micro Swiss nozzle and heater block kit. Then there was the bed adhesion issue, solved by proper leveling using guage/paper and sometimes using Tape. Another one was the quality of the print… Always a mess, prints look horrible, this one solved by switching to S3D. Right now, it has printed a Jade Riffle (myminifactory) and I consider it my top 2 printer at home amongst my other 5 printers in terms of quality. ? Every problem has a solution, it doesn’t have always to be the same but there’s always going to be a workaround.

2 years later

I use a Maker Select V2 which is the same thing rebranded as the Wanhao i3. I’d suggest you switch to an all metal hot end. From my experience it’s easier than dealing with that liner tube. Also, after awhile of printing with it I had trouble with the gear slippage on the extrusion motor which was fixed with taking it apart and putting some threadlocker on the locking grub nut that holds it in place (be careful with the spring!) Just something to look out for.

From the videos I agree with the people on here that said you need some gluestick or net hair spray on your glass bed. That is what looks like might be a problem, the filament is curling and getting stuck on the nozzle and not adhering. Once you have printed a bit you won’t need to keep on using hairspray at least I don’t have to, unless I clean the glass thoroughly with rubbing alcohol.

You might have an easier time meticulously leveling one specific area of the bed and moving your prints to that spot instead of the very center of the bed and print testing to see if bed level issues are also creeping in. Or print a calibration circle and tweak the level as it is printing twisting the nuts gently. For that I used to slow down the print speed, before opting for a touch sensor and ramps upgrade.

It can also depend on the filament you are using and possibly the temps too. If you are entry level definitely stick to PLA just because it’s easy and lower temp. When you get into PET and even ABS you have a lot of factors ie ABS hates drafts. It wasn’t until I started using other filament types that I started understanding and really learning all about settings like layer height, extrusion rate. I think that aspect of 3D printing seems daunting, but it really helps understanding those settings, and there are great YouTube videos, Reddit posts and the like to help you in figuring it all out. Keep at it, don’t give up, we are all rooting for you and here to help!