Which printer has the best community and innovation support ? Innovation support is very important. With printers we can make personal food, sinter steel maybe even weave cloth in close future. When a new method is developed, which printer will get better modifications ?

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Ultimaker.

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I’m Erik, a founder of Ultimaker. Starting in the RepRap community we wanted to make it easier for people to get printing and designed a printer to allow both tinkering (expansion of capabilities of you and your printer) and reliable use. Also it needed to be fast and precise and should print big while being a relatively small machine. We’ve released several upgrades to our printers and will continue to make more upgrades. They also get integrated into the design as we improve. We share our designs online, as well as firmware (Marlin) and software (Cura). We also host the sharing platform www.YouMagine.com with numerous community powered upgrades to the Ultimaker. This includes clay, chocolate paste and other kinds op printing. Or the switching of materials, etc, etc. The possibilities are endless!

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I’m Firat, user of Ultimaker. I don’t recommend Ultimaker. Yes they make upradges but for more than 1 year all ultimaker users facing with big problems and we don’t see any solution from Ultimaker side. First: Feeder mechanism. It is crappy, every week makes problem. It grinds filament or not hold good.

Second bowden mechanism problem. That collets which took filement pipe is very bad designed (why plastic?) and useless. One small part became obsolate and all machine stays now.

I wish for making 2 new (actually not new… just sizes) machine. you should make hardware upradges that all ultimaker users waiting…

And when I ask myself if I had to buy machine now which model would I buy… I don’t know but ultimaker is not in my list… Leapfrog or Zortrax machines are more updated…

To be honest, I’d say that XYZ (the Maker’s of the DaVinci, et al.) are probably the best at being trendsetters -they’re likely to be the first to hit the personal food printing market well; HOWEVER, you will not get any sort of upgrades from them. They’ll be at the cutting-edge but you’ll have to pay up to meet them there. Hands-down, if you want an open printer from a company with a huge mod and upgrade community, Brook Drumm and the Printrbot line have got you covered. I’ve been able to keep one of our oldest printers (a Printrbot LC) up to date thanks to the fantastic community over in the Printrbot forum: Printrbot Talk Forum • Index page

You could also check Hubs | On-demand Manufacturing: Quotes in Seconds, Parts in Days, each printer is rated on Community and Support as well. Cheers!

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FYI, click here for a collection of Ultimaker 2 upgrades available on YouMagine. It’s 14 pages long, from simple tool holders to complete alternative print-heads or multi-head print head setups.

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The only 3D printer I recommend to you in the present is EcubMaker Fantasy II

I have 4 3D printers (include FlashForge) at home. But, EcubMaker Fantasy II is the best in my experience.

I bought it from Amazon

Here is the link to the 3D printer

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WFKK3JG

I can also recommend Ultimaker, i am a happy customer of a Ultimaker 2 and i handle two other UM2, one UMO with heated bed upgrade and a crazy modded UMO every week at Stockholm Makerspace wich i am a founder of.

Regarding the upgrades, my own UM2 is nowdays upgraded with a 3DSolex “the Olsson block” heaterblock and their JET RSB nozzles, the feeder from IRobertI and a custom fan duct, among other things, and it works perfectly nearly all the time. The ones at the Makerspace is fully stock equipped and does also work very well, especially considering how many different people, many totally new to 3D Printing, that use them every week.

The hacks & mods forum @ ultimaker.com is also very active with lots of discussion and sharing every day.

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Flashforge support is excellent but any maker replicator support is directly applicable to the flashforge clone so there’s tonnes and tonnes of info.

I’ll add my voice to the Ultimaker crowd. I have an Ultimaker Original and I have printed many upgrades designed by the very active community.

It’s an excellent printer and is incredibly easy to modify to ones own taste.

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Hi Firat, I spoke to our support team but we couldn’t find questions from you based on your name. However, please don’t hesitate to contact our support team! Our goal is to ensure you have a great 3D printing experience and your experience has been very poor. It seems like there may be a dysfunctional part in your printer because (obviously) other customers are not having nearly as many problems as you describe! You may be helped with an official replacement part, or perhaps with a few good tips. It may also depend on the filaments you use, however it’s good to take it up with support or ask in the community. There are lots of very knowledgable people in the community as well. There are several community provided alternative feeders an other upgrades if you wish to add more force to your feeding mechanism.

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Dremel, And Ultimaker I love them

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Hi Gurcan.

I have been doing modeling as a hobby for my entire life. Building CNC mills, routers, and lathes to create whatever came to mind. 3D printing since it was just a thought, hacking hardware, writing software, having a great time. I write a game based 3D sculpting and meshing suite that allows users to customize characters and objects in virtual communities. Just a hobby still, as my career path is a professional engineer. I use these machines to not only make toys and gadgets, but as tools to give insight into real world problems. I, like many, quest for the uniqueness, not the common. If we wish to mass produce, and copy others work… We would buy it instead.

I give you this first to qualify myself. I am not a rep for any printer company. Just a life long geek with a passion for the unknown. A fabricating system is a tool that allows your mind to explore possibles. I might think of a new design for a mundane item, run thru dozens of possible models in my computer. Simulate a thousand more. Toy with genetic algorithms to help select just a handful. Then print and compare, entry my data, including emotion, art, and passion into my simulation. And let it evolve a few generations more. This is how I see these tools used. To produce that unknown. To create artistic expression. Not just copy things from the crowd.

My wife likes to quip in a loving way, that all most do is print out things they could get better from the dollar store. But there is a thriving community that does so much more. Artists and makers, thinkers and creators. Sharing ideas, debating new ways, and making things a new. So… Long path to here, but I hope you feel my passion. It is not the replication, but the creation.

Your examples are FlashForge and Ultimaker. There are so many others out there, but these two will do, because I just so happen to own a FlashForge Creator X/Pro, and a Utilimaker 2. Have a pile of toys in my shop. But these two are my workhorses. Both excellent printers, solid and build very true. I proof on the FlashForge, it runs nearly non stop. But that machine is nothing but a clone of work done by another company. Its features and functions lifted from Makerbot nearly 100%. There is no innovation, nothing is changed. The software is Makerbot as well. So, while my trusted old printer has run 24/7 for nearly 18 months. It is not innovative. It is in fact one just a clone.

My Ultimaker on the other hand. Has a quality of build that is simply outstanding. Every part and piece is crafted and tooled from the finest beginnings. That attention to quality shows in the gentle song the motors make as it quickly yet precisely lays down plastic perfectly layer after layer. So good most cannot accept it even came from a 3d FDM printer at all. This design is so rare that it is almost unique. And the website they built, has a very real difference. Everything is signed and tagged with the creator, and shared by common license.

Another went on about issues with extruders as an example. Instead of complaining about failures… folks in that community joined forces. Set up a thread, created goals, debated solutions, and shared with all better ways. And for those that embrace that culture, our printers produce the most amazing things. And those innovations work out into the world, back to the others. While others share back in a big circle. Respect for the merit of creation, not the requirements of replication.

Flashforge is a good company. They make one of the best clones on the market. They have sent me new parts 18 months after buying, and always treat me with kindness and respect. But Ultimaker has not only given me a tool that stands far far out above all the rest. They also gifted the community with the intellectual property inside it, and a forum and community to fly with it.

What the future holds will just be evolved from today. We know it will be amazing if only we keep dreaming about whats new and unknown. I believe there are a few companies with that passion and drive, Ultimaker is one. Proven it no less. The real concern for you should not be to worry about which company to buy from. But what your budget is, and then simply buy the best made machine from anyone that fits in that space. Eventually I believe, all those that get lost to the art, end up buying an Ultimaker anyhow. After all, the difference tween 20 micron and 100 is worth every penny in the end.

Cheers

James

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