the past week I encountered a problem regarding my work for 3DHubs. According to the Terms of Use #5.4* each hub is responsible for determining its applicable tax and vat.
Regarding my hub I discussed it with my tax advisor. In Germany it is definitely a business and VAT must be payed.
So I would like to make the hubs more sensible to this problem, and it would be really nice if 3DHubs will help their hubs in order to avoid problems with the fiscal authorities
So be aware and don’t tap into a tax trap
Cheers,
Joerg
*5_.4. Hubs understand and agree that they are solely responsible for determining their applicable tax reporting requirements and any applicable taxes for the 3D printing services they provide to Users through the Website._
Hi Joerg, thanks for your comment. As we have Hubs connected in 140 countries it’s not so easy for us to advise each Hub on their individual tax situation. Hubs often know this much better than we do, as it’s different in every country at which point tax reporting is needed.
Where possible we’ll try to improve the information on the website about this, so if you have any suggestions where you would like to see information improved we are very open to hear.
For me it is pretty hard to discuss this in English, but I will do my very best
From my point of view there are some possibilities where improvement is possible:
1. During the registration, there should be a first hint that there might be a tax problem and hubs should check it for their country.
2. On the final payoff page there should be a not like "You receive € x,yz"²
(² = Please check your countries tax regulations. May be tax reporting is required.)
3. Printable invoices for each order will help the hubs a lot for the tax reporting. In Germany for each order there must be payed sales tax (19%) and the hubs need to have some kind of proof for it.
Basically it’s 3dHubs who is our partner, not the customer, because the payment comes from 3DHubs. First of all, I could not give the customer an invoice over the amount he had to pay to 3DHubs, because I never got this payed from the customer. If I do so and the tax authority check my bank account, they would see only payments from 3DHubs, so they would see this as a different customer than the customer I had send the invoice for the print.
To be on the correct side, 3DHubs would need to give us a receipt for each comission that we get - and this comission should include VAT, or, if you provice a VAT Number, should not include it.
I was in contact with someone at 3DHubs in the past and they compared it to ebay - unfurtunately this is not correct - on ebay, you get payed by the customer you sell to and only pay comission to ebay. Here you get payed by 3DHubs, to your business partner is 3DHubs and nobody else.
@Joerg: Basically you are doing business with another company in the European Union - so if they provide you with their VAT number, you should be able to get the payment without additional taxes.
But this all depends how the financial department at 3DHubs is workin…
we are business based in Lithuania (EU) so we must prepare invoice for 3DHubs after we received money from them. All we need was VAT ID (BTW Nr. in Netherlands), so guys please mention about it in your receipt and somewhere on the web page.
