Looking for opinions - criticisms on the Raise3D N2/N2 Plus.
Considering getting one. Looking for large, enclosed build volume. Direct drive, heated bed and variable speed parts cooling fan.
Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions on a comparable printer. Also looking at the Guider 2.
Hey wirlybird, happy to answer as a 3rd party who also sells the units as a reseller. Depending on your needs and budget, it might be a perfect printer for you but that’s up to the application.
For the build volume, I’d say its the best bang for your buck printer out there. It has some notable sacrifices to keep the cost down, particular the lack of a bed probe and a heavy drive carriage. With that said, I LOVE my Bondtech upgraded N2+. It’s fantastic, especially if you decide to go with a wider nozzle to make bigger prints run faster due to the additional torque. It’s nearly a $200 upgrade but it’s definitely worth it, but you’d be fine to stick with stock parts for a while.
User experience is pretty straight forward as there is no assembly, the touchscreen is an understated gem. Makes the printer process remote via wifi easy. What I don’t like about the N2/N2+ is the bed. It’s over-engineered with the 16 or so bed screws. They do a good job laser leveling the machine before it arrives but it’s just good to take note that adjusting the bed beyond leveling it is a (rare) pain.
The key thing to keep in mind is material options tend to lessen the larger your prints are. Nylon, ABS, and various others are known to shrink or otherwise distort at larger sizes. Just something to keep in mind from someone who’s done this for nearly a decade now. Your fine with good quality PLA, PC or TPU for sure though!
Thanks for the info. I am thinking more that single extruder is really all I need especially if the second will be a Bowden! I have three dual extruder machines and have rarely done a dual print. I actually am setting up my MK2 with the 4 material/color add on once I get the new MK3.
So the single does have a variable speed parts fan? Or is it at least possible to add? I actually use the fan on some prints for specific cooling such as the last couple layers of supports. Helps the supports come off better.
How about the slicer? Seems a bunch of things only are available if you use it as opposed to S3D. How much of the display features/monitoring will still work using something like S3D to slice?
I imagine as long as the bed is “flat”, not warped, leveling isn’t too bad once you get it figured out.
I am leaning heavily toward a single extruder now. I have no use for a second one that is Bowden!!
I like the USB stick idea. SD cards fall apart on heavy use. I actually use wifi SD cards and map them as a drive in Windows. Slice and save to the remote card. Works slick!
Does seem a shame to have that fancy display and not utilize most of it!!
Forgot to ask. Your price is the same as the Raise site (!!) but how about shipping? I am much more inclined to use a more “local” vendor and especially since you jumped in to answer questions. They say they have a facility in CA but how much does a warehouse help you out!
Also, how long does a N2 (not +) take to get?
I just don’t think I can justify the additional cost on the additional height and may never really use it. I don’t have a lot of call for print that tall.
Concerning the screen, you’d still be using it… just not over WiFi or to view the 2D still image of your print. You can even just install Ideamaker just to WiFi connect the machine for remote control. Really are not missing much regardless of slicer. I like Ideamaker, it’s not as fussy or ugly as others so it integrates easily into workshops/office/libraries.
No problem man! Shipping is included in the cost of the machine anywhere in mainland US. You’re good!
How long does it take to get the N2 after it is ordered? Once I order I get impatient!!
I am curious why so long? Aren’t they in California? Just wondering!
All made in China mate
They say they ship in 5 days after the order but they wait on banks to finish transfers first which can vary the transfer time + ground shipping to keep it affordable (was $250-$500+ back in the Kickstarter DHL days.)
You have already defined your criteria for selecting this printer which is similar to what encouraged me to select my N2
No real cause for regrets except I am not really convinced my double extruder is always helpful. For nstance: I used the power break facility yesterday night because I had to rush off somewhere. On resuming some seepage or oozing from the idle nozzle had pooled on to the print.
So on resuming, it began with a wild jolt That loosened the left extruder to the extent that it wobbled whilst printing thus marring the project.
Now that scenario is not peculiar to Raise 3d, it’s a great machine. I think with these modern printers with all their multi functions and variable settings the real issue is understanding the machine to get the best out of it.
That said, all my teething challenges revolved not around the machine or the Slicer but with the Touchpad Control system which, in the past could fail to pause, or switch off or respond to a command for temperature increase or x,y or z shift.
Otherwise, have fun. Had mine for 12 months and will buy the N2+
I am not convinced the extra grand for this printer is worth it when I compare to the Flashforge Guider 2 with a very similar build size (280 X 250 X 300). I do appreciate the input about it though.
I would be curious on the touchpad issue if you “ground” yourself by touching the frame before touching it, does it make a difference. If you have built up a bit of a “charge” it can interfere with using this type of pad.
You do you man, no worries on my part. I personally I’m not a huge fan of flashforge as their machines are so freakin’ loud. Had two different models in my shop for repairs and they were both noticeable louder than all my other machines beside an old Delta. Made it tough to talk to customers when they were running. As a print service, I’m a bit surprised you’re not trying to maximize your build volume. Big prints are where the money is at right now, atleast on a corporate business scale.
This machine is for me a real disaster for a price of 3.5K €.
A student in industrial design would do a lot better. The technical choices are extremely bad
Hardware, electronics, USB extension Unitek (I do not know if this is allowed) is of a very poor quality
The leveling of the bed is unstable according to the temperature
Extruders are bad and too heavy. The XY axes flex under their weight and prevent a constant extruder / bed play adjustment over the entire surface of the
plateau (up to 0.1-0.2mm). Except improvement (resellers included) can not make a good adjustment of this printer.
The cable-holder chain used anyhow also weighs on the extruders
I only had problems with this printer, and it can not even serve as an aquarium.
In fact, it is a prototype produced in series that Raise3D offers without shame. According to them, transportation is the cause of many worries, it is the only absurd excuse they have found.
In France, some of us will probably go to court to get a refund.
