MakerBOT Firmware 2.5 Warning!

shahramrobotics · 2017-05-12T14:31:13.000Z

In the new firmware looks like when you start a print or try to change the filament, the first thing happens is that the extruder feeds the filament at max speed for a few seconds (to push the nozzle down I think) and then starts to heat up. This puts too much load on the motor and drains too much current, maybe that’s why, probably fried all your components and wires. Specially when you have the tough one, older extruders just chip off the filament, yours probably was more resisting to feed the filament trough a cold nozzle.

OCTheatrical · 2017-05-12T14:35:51.000Z

Yea the new Pre move is horrible… I ended up turning on the unload setting after each print just to avoid the horror of that noise!!

Swift_IT · 2017-05-15T06:52:45.000Z

Thanks for the heads up. Ill hold off updating to the latest firmware for now.

OCTheatrical · 2017-05-15T10:40:16.000Z

I would - The new “pre-feed” moment that shahramrobotics describes is horrible and it sounds like it will break your machine every time.

I’ve had no official word back from MB but if I do hear anything I’ll let you know!

wayneuk · 2017-05-15T11:05:31.000Z

time foor the cr 10 500mm 500mm 500mm :@)

360alaska · 2017-05-15T11:08:31.000Z

I have 2 fifth gen replicators and one replicator plus. 2.5 does a cold extrusion at the start of every print. It will cause jams by for sure! If you don’t want to downgrade you can change the makerbot’s settings to autounload after each print.

FTW3D · 2017-05-15T13:03:02.000Z

wow. that is kind of weird… unrelated, but on a similar vein… I tried to run the new makerbot software, makerbot PRINT, and it would not even recognize my replicator 2 printers on USB… sigh…luckily I was able to reinstall the old makerbot desktop and am back up and running. Probably won’t be buying another makerbot though.

OCTheatrical · 2017-05-15T13:05:15.000Z

I think They disabled USB support on Print for a while - if memory serves it was only the most recent version of print that brought it back!

Swift_IT · 2017-05-30T10:28:33.000Z

typical makerbot, i regret the purchase everyday. the z18 is way overpriced for its limited capabilities… pffft pla only!

SE+ is also overpriced garbage that lasts a few months at best, I’ve replaced it 4 times so far, I sent the last one off for repairs over 2 months ago to Objective3d here in Australia. was told it isn’t repairable (error was it didn’t stop the build plate raising up when it does its z axis calibration at the start of every print), they haven’t sent it back and are completely ignoring me.
To top it off they have no clue whats wrong with it.

I made a custom glass build plate topped with 3m blue tape and made a jig that holds a dial indicator allowing me to level the bed within a couple micron accuracy. I can print an object the full size of the bed Raftless but you also require Simplify3d to achieve this.

wayneuk · 2017-05-30T13:08:56.000Z

sorry to rub it it but just printed this cr 10 cost of two m bot replacement extruders… feel your pain ive the 5th gen also the smart extruders + are really not smart there customer service also sucks and is a long winded process

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360alaska · 2017-05-30T13:47:37.000Z

I have 3 Smart Extruder + on 3 separate Makerbots and they all work perfectly, the one thing I’ve noticed is that sometimes when trying to load filament it ends up inside the SE+ mechanism and not through the nozzle. The best way to make sure this doesn’t happen is to straighten the filament and cut the end off before attempting to feed it in.

The original smart extruder also seems to work decently if your using makerbot filament, using aftermarket filament is a no go with this one (it will jam alot!), but I have had some success with an original SE and PET filiment.

wayneuk · 2017-05-30T13:59:41.000Z

i find the best way to have no issues with the m bot is to leave it in the corner under the dust cover myself they also just about to bump there spares up to by 20% its not like there cheap anyhow incase u havent had the heads up on that. … click click crunch on every start up :'l

rhysd · 2017-06-05T09:55:11.000Z

Hi Wayne,

I noticed that you mentioned Simplify3d to control your makerbot, I have a Replicator 5th Gen but cannot get Simplify3d to connect or control the MB through USB cable at all. I have setup S3D with the required MB firmware.
Or are you perhaps outputting .stl files and running through a USB stick or SD card ? Any advice you could give would be most appreciated! thanks

360alaska · 2017-06-05T10:04:57.000Z

You can use simplify3d to output sliced files for a USB stick. This is the best way since Simplify3d is not yet supporting newer firmwares. Simplify3d will output a .makerbot file.

3dprintingguy · 2017-06-05T10:11:36.000Z

could you share your profiles? cant seem to get s3d working with the makerbots

chris@3dprintingguy.com

rhysd · 2017-06-08T11:51:15.000Z

Thanks 360alaska, do you know if the .makerbot file carries over all the temperature and specific layer speed/temp settings that I set in S3D?

Swift_IT · 2017-06-09T07:54:20.000Z

yeah mate, just export to usb and walk it to the machine. Simplify3d really steps up the game on the makerbot Z18, there just isn’t a comparison to mb desktop.

Swift_IT · 2017-06-09T07:55:53.000Z

a .makerbot is just a zip archive that contains the gcode, text file and the thumbnails.

Swift_IT · 2017-06-09T07:58:07.000Z

hey mate,
more than happy to share the s3d profile for my mb z18, I’ll flick you an email and help you get it sorted.

360alaska · 2017-06-09T12:16:30.000Z

Hi , just saw this, all you need to do is to add a new printer to S3d and select makerbot 5th.