Looking for a high quality professional 3D scanner

MB3D · 2015-08-26T15:20:37.000Z

If I remember correctly @Arnoldas made a post about the experience of the 3d Hubs team with different 3d scanners. Maybe he can dig the thread out for you, I sadly don’t have the Internet connection and time to do so. Cheers, Marius Breuer

Steve_Hartig · 2015-08-26T15:59:46.000Z

Spannerhands,

We’re the US distributor for a company called SMARTTECH 3D and I think you should check them out. One issue you will find is that there is a big difference in the scanner that you will need for a 100mm measurement volume verses a 500mm measurement volume. Details will not show up on small objects with a 500mm measurement volume scanner and there will be considerable deviations when trying to piece together 100mm scans from a 500mm part. In house, we personally use the Scan3D Universe with a 400mm volume, which would be a good fit for your vacuum forming molds. If you get in touch with SMARTTECH, they can probably find a compromise that works for what you are trying to do.

Also, consider the fact that you will need additional software to process the scan data into a CAD surface that you can cut parts off of. The best option I am aware of in your price range would be Leios 2 which can go from a point cloud, polygonal mesh, and finally a NURBS CAD surface that you can load into your CAM package.

I’d be happy to lend some advice if would like to discuss your project in greater detail, so feel free to send me an email. I’m not going to try to sell you anything, as being in Europe puts you outside of my sales territory.

Best Regards,

Steve Hartig

CEO, Into3D LLC

hartigs@into3dllc.com

IMDIMA · 2015-08-26T16:18:16.000Z

Hello,

Have you thaught about “David SLS-2” ?

Cheers

Yann Forestier

Jory · 2015-08-26T16:20:34.000Z

Following this…looking for the same kind of criteria and price range. The ability to scan small, blind holes and their depths would be nice but I haven’t found anything under $100k that can do that reliably. Handheld would also be better for my application too vs. a rotating pedestal style setup.

Steve_Hartig · 2015-08-26T16:33:00.000Z

Have you looked at structured light scanners? There are a number of options out there for less than $100k. For OP’s budget, we have systems that have rated single-scan accuracy down to 60 microns.

SpannerHands · 2015-08-26T17:12:35.000Z

Looks good, but think the its built down to a price, so don’t know how good it is cant find and good examples of its outputs…

SpannerHands · 2015-08-26T17:16:05.000Z

Thanks Steve, have sent you an email : -)

Jory · 2015-08-26T18:26:26.000Z

For the OP, maybe this list can help you out some. Here are a few I’ve been looking at. I really need something that can capture very small features and holes accurately, which I’m not sure any of these can do well enough for me.

HandySCAN 700

http://www.creaform3d.com/en/metrology-solutions/portable-3d-scanner-handyscan-3d

Artec Space Spider

http://www.artec3d.com/hardware/artec-spider/

Nikkon ModelMaker MMDx

http://www.nikonmetrology.com/en_US/Products/Portable-Measuring/Handheld-scanning/ModelMaker-MMDx

Steve_Hartig · 2015-08-26T18:34:21.000Z

What sort of project are you working on, Jory?

Jory · 2015-08-26T18:55:33.000Z

Injection molded plastic parts, machined aluminum/steel…mostly RC car related items. You know…very serious stuff.

Steve_Hartig · 2015-08-26T19:07:59.000Z

Interesting application. I’d like to talk with you a bit more about what you’re doing and see if I can either help you directly or point you in the right direction (if you aren’t in the US). I always enjoy being a resource for others in the community. Send me an email at hartigs@into3dllc.com and we can talk about what your needs are. Thanks, Steve Hartig

SpannerHands · 2015-08-26T19:12:59.000Z

Thanks for that list, HandyScan 700 looks interesting.

Jory · 2015-08-26T19:29:26.000Z

Agreed, the HandyScan 700 looks good but it is a little expensive. There are a lot of 3D Scanner companies that charge a lot extra to add the software to be able to use the machine. Considering the 700 comes bundled with the software, it makes the price a little easier to handle, depending on how much you plan to use it and what your budget is. One of the biggest selling points to me is the fact it is a handheld unit and doesn’t require a tripod and rotating base to do the scans.

Jory · 2015-08-26T20:53:46.000Z

E-mail sent.

Pot8oSH3D · 2015-08-26T23:54:29.000Z

Well, guys, that was an interesting read. About the only name that didn’t come up was the Einscan-S…

EinScan

3d Scanners, Professional 3D Scanners, Software and Support | EinScan

Einscan 3D Scanners from Shining3d provide high accuracy, high precision and professional scan experience to users. Handheld 3d scanners are available.

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…but, as some people have already said, scanners tend to be optimised for specific tasks and scanning volumes. If you want to scan everything from the size of your fist to a whole body, it’s a big ask for any technology. The Einscan looks to be the best bang for the buck while covering the widest range of scan volumes. There’s bound to be a down-side and it’ll probably be resolution but at that price it’s definitely worth a look.

Another option worth considering would be photogrammetry as it’s size-agnostic. A couple of grand for great software ( Don’t take 123D Catch as a good example ), a gaming PC and a good DSLR. Take a look on Sketchfab to see what can be done…

Sketchfab

Explore 3D Models

Find all kinds of 3D models. From low poly assets to animated rigs & digital scans. All for your 3D, Virtual Reality, and Augmented Reality projects.

Check this ( Decimated!! ) photogrammetry scan

If that’s peaked your interest, here’s a link to a discussion about the various software packages…

Sketchfab Forum – 12 Feb 15

Comparing Photogrammetry Software

As a bit of a joint community project, I’d be interested to compare some photogrammetry software. I was thinking someone could provide a nice set of photographs and then we can all run our own software on it to generate a 3D model. If you want, you...

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Oh! And Fuel3D Scanify!

Cheers,

AndyL

Pot8oSH3D

SpannerHands · 2015-08-27T06:37:47.000Z

Thanks for that Andy…

I have looked into this before, and played with the technology (3D product images for a website)

I think photogrammetry makes 3D look amazing and I think for web site product images its probably going to be the future, but have you ever looked at the 3D file without the lovely texture image? I don’t know if its the software I used, but raw 3D image is quite rough & basic in comparison to how good it looks when rendered out…

For example with that beautiful jet engine, which is truly amazing. If you select the wire frame or metcap view you can see the 3D file is less impressive…

koenbodewes · 2015-08-27T08:20:27.000Z

You could also try the new Microsoft app Mobile Fusion. Looks promising.

Markus_Landert · 2015-08-27T16:13:01.000Z

Take a look at http://www.faro.com we have some differen kind of scanning products.

Jory · 2015-08-27T16:47:31.000Z

100% agree. While the rendered picture looks good, the wireframe tends to be very rough. For instance, if you go to the downloadable items on the Artec site, you’ll see a nice looking picture of a PCB with Ethernet port. Doesn’t look too bad in the rendered view, but when I opened it in SolidWorks, the .STL image looked very rough in comparison. Granted, it did capture the exposed pins decently, but the Ethernet port isn’t shown very well for internal features or the depth of the plug socket.

Pot8oSH3D · 2015-08-27T17:24:36.000Z

Oh! I’m with ya there, dude. That’s why I pointed out that the mesh has been decimated. Can’t remember how many polys it was originally but it was in the millions. Gerpho had to decimate it quite dramatically to get the Sketchfab load time down and response up. I know it’s kinda counter-intuitive that photogrammetry can offer results as good as multi thousand dollar scanners but the tech is developing really fast. You only need to look at 5 year old scanners to see how many are totally obsolete now.

All things considered, if I were you, and had a pocket with 20K in it to spend on scanning anything from 100mm to 2 Metres, it’d be an Einscan, a Scanify, a Structure Sensor and a photogrammetry set-up. Put them together with a good gaming PC running David, Meshlab, Netfabb, Acute3D, Smart3DCapture, Skanect or similar and you’re good to go. Of course you can get similar results with more costly set-ups but, mainly what you’re paying for is the convenience ( and trade-offs ) of having everything in one easy to use package. And, in 5 years time, you won’t have a single item that won’t run on the current version of Windows and can’t connect to a PC anyway because the interface is obsolete. Ya pays ya money. Ya takes ya choice.

Just my ten cents

Cheers!

AndyL

Pot8oSH3D