WASP 2040 Levelling Question

[Surge]

Hello,

I just received my 2040. I have some experience with 3D printing (Makerbot 2).

When leveling the bed of the WASP, Positions 1,2,3 (each end point or corner) are set accurately, so a piece of paper encounters very slight friction as it passes beneath.

My problem is that position 0 (center of the plate) is too close. The paper cannot pass through. I then have to increase the distance at each corner, which causes inconsistent prints.

When I print with position 0 being too close, it seems fine! So that makes me think that somehow the position 0 set point is off. Is that possible?

e.g., I printed the cylinder from the SD card that ships with the printer, and it’s fine - the first layer passed right through the center point and the nozzle did not contact the plate… even though during manual leveling the nozzle would not allow a piece of paper to pass through.

I hope someone can help me figure out why position 0 is off when positions 1,2,3 seem perfect.

Thanks

[paoloboni]

I have also this problem (it isn’t a big problem in for me) i just set before in the corner and After i level up or down more in the centre…they told me i should sent them the machine if i want To resolve the problem

[Cosmo3d]

Hi Sergio, i’m Enrico and I write from Torino, Italy. I use WASP printers for 3 years, I sell and repair them (http://www.cosmo3d.it).
From the description I think that your delta 2040 is fine. It’s quite normal that you can find some difference between the calibration points, but if the differences are within 0,1 mm, you will be OK. I have 3 delta 2040 inmy studio, and in each one there is some little difference between the levelling points. You must perform the calibration passing mor times from the four points and changing the bed position control moving several times. The 3 controls levelling points cause that every change on 1 point is reflected on the others. In the end you can compensate the llittle difference using an intermediate postion, and you will be OK.

I’m sure you will enjoy printing with your Delta, it’s a wonderful machine built by wondeful pople.

Feel free to write me for any information. A question: are you italian? Bye. Enrico

[Surge]

Hi Enrico,

Thank you for your reply and offer to help!

No, sadly, I am not Italian but native latin language speaking, hence my name.

Yes, I would say the difference is 0.05 - 0.1 mm in terms of position 0’s height vs. the height of positions 1,2, and 3.

I saw in a video for the 2040 Turbo model that it has auto leveling, is that true?

[Surge]

Also, I noticed in another thread that the Z value should be 442. On mine it says Z444 (on the main display). What doest that mean, and could it be related to position 0 being too close to the plate?

Thanks, ciao.

[Cosmo3d]

Hi, the Z value is the distance from home position in mm. The value depends from the version of the printer and the print bed thickness. 442 is a correct Z value for 4mm glass bed, but is possible that WASP changed something in the last days… they never stop enhancing their machines… Anyway if the hot end comes down correctly near the bed, you’re OK. If Z value is too high, the hot end hits the bed, if too low thehot end styops too far from bed when levelling. The Z value can be changed to meet the printing situation… I still never had a Turbo delta, but I didn’t find any printer with auto-levelling during my visit to WASP. The last improvement is the new extruder with interchagable nozzle and the end-filament sensor with autopause, the last one only on Turbo and bigger delta (from 4070). Anyway I don’t like the auto levelling systems too much: I prefer make it on my own. Ciao. Enrico.

[Surge]

Thank you Enrico.

Mine has a metal bed, and came with Z value of 444; probably because it’s metal instead of glass.

How do I know if it has the end-filament sensor with auto pause?

Ciao,

Sergio

[Cosmo3d]

HI, your print bed is the new Inox bed. Very good. The end of filemant sensor is a little ‘box’ suspended in the middle of the upper internal white panel in wich you must insert the filament before cold end. This sensor is only in Turbo version and in bigger delta from 4070 and up. If your delta is a standard one, you don’t have it. All the best. Enrico

[Surge]

Hi, thank you.

If it runs out of filament or it breaks, and it doesn’t have the sensor, what happens? I assume it keeps trying to print, and the Resurrection won’t work, because there is no record of where the filament ended, correct?

I printed with Timberfill last night, very successfully, but the filament is quite brittle and is easy to break. Actually, it broke at the end of the print, when the nozzle moved home, the extra filament hit the top of the print area. I may set it so it doesn’t return home on my next Timberfill print.

Ciao¡

[Cosmo3d]

In this case nothing happens. The printer think to have the filament and continue it’s job. I think in the future it will be possible to upgrade your printer and add the sensor. Good evening. Enrico

[Cosmo3d]

OK, but why ‘sadly’?

I can say ’ sadly i don’t speak (and write) english so fluently’…

All the best

Enrico

[Surge]

Hi Enrico,

Your written English is amazing! I say ‘sadly’ because I wish I were Italian (I’m a mix of Austrian/Romanian)… my wife is half-Italian… we go every year. Fabulous country!

[Cosmo3d]

I think that Canada has nothing to envy to italy… ‘sadly’ I never been there ;-). Maybe we have more monuments, but nature in Canada my be fantastic… (You are from Toronto, correct?) If you come in Turin please le me know, I will take a coffee with you (or a glass of good wine).

Happy 3d printing with your Delta 2040!

[Surge]

I do love Canada, and there is a lot of natural beauty. Thank you for the invitation - I extend the same to you!

I’m planning to use the 2040 for making a wood enclosure for an attachment that goes over the lens of a smartphone. I’ll let you know how it turns out. Thank you for your help!

Ciao!

[Cosmo3d]

ok, I wait for your news. Send me some shot of your works… if you wont I can publish them on my website. I could add a section for works of friends and clients… Bye. Enrico