Jori
October 19, 2016, 7:47am
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I think it will be a good machine for the professional market. But it won’t be for tinkeres and people that are just starting with 3d printing. The dual extrusions looks well engineered
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I have been lucky enough to be part of the test group before the launch so i had the opportunity to use it for around 3 weeks now.
It’s a very good printer, dual extrusion works perfectly, the wifi/network connectivity is very usefull.
The print cores work flawlessly, i printed PLA, ABS, CPE, NYLON with no issues with the AA Core and PVA with the BB core
I agree that the price is a bit high, but really it’s worth it
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It’s Awesome.
i also think a lot of people are missing the point here. this is not an UM2(+) replacement. it has a different audience…
if you need a reliable 3D printer for use at home and printing every now and then, or even on a very regular basis, and you are not afraid to do maintenance on them, then the UM2+ is the printer for you.
if you need a printer you can run 24/7, have high demands from and everything needs to be plug and play, the Um3 is for you.
so the prosumer/universities etc. of the world, they have a definitive benefit from this printer. for most peop[le at home, it’s nice, but I don’t see many advantages over the UM2+.
so I think it’s super exciting, and not overpriced at all…
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Simply beautiful as all Ultimakers. I’m evaluating to sell my Ultimaker 2+ and get this one
As espected from ultimaker, it is designed to be “perfect”. As they said a while back that dual extrusion needs to be done right, I think they nailed it with the UM3. Even the swappable printer cores is well designed.
The price,… yeah it’s high. Too high for me too. But that also counts for apple products
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The initial design and read up looks like they’ve ironed out some of the issues the Ultimaker 2 and 2+ had. I have a 2+ and I must say I’m looking forward to trying the 3. Dual extrusion was always a must for these machines.
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I think It’s simply fantastic!
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I would only do that if you really, really need dual extrusion. The UM2+ is a great machine.
Hoffa
October 19, 2016, 8:03am
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I’m “this close” to ordering it, right off the bat. However, the price point is a bit steep for me, as an out-of-work student, so I’ll have to give it a month or two. Hopefully time for Simplify3D to come out with profiles for the UM3, as well as for them to fix any bugs in the firmware associated with rushing the product to market (which they admit doing).
It’s not going to replace my UM2+, rather work along side, providing me with remote control and most importantly of course the no-hassle dual extrusion, mainly for PVA support. I currently spend quite a bit of time cleaning up customer prints, due to the surprisingly large amount of overhangs people really seem to like. Looking forward to just dunking parts in water and seeing my problems dissolve.
The one main issue I have with the Ultimaker 3 is the build volume. I’d really like to see Ultimaker come out with a 30x30x30 (12" for you Americans) or even slightly larger build volume printer, instead of just the height extended versions. Especially fabricating robot components sometimes needs the larger print bed, in my experience. Currently I do a _lot_ of PLA welding on components - I have a dedicated dremel just for PLA welding, which says a lot.
- So if anyone can recommend a larger dual extrusion printer with the same reliability of an Ultimaker, I think I won’t be bound to the brand.
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Hoffa
October 19, 2016, 8:06am
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I agree with you 100% on the fact that it’s not an UM2(+) replacement. It’s quite a different animal indeed.
The price point is up there, for sure, but again, it’s not a tinkertoy but a prosumer/professional machine. A lot of printers I’ve been looking at are priced either very similarly or at closer to the 6K or 9K mark, without necessarily having the reliability, build quality or HUGE community and support that the Ultimaker name provides.
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Hoffa
October 19, 2016, 8:08am
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Agreed. I’m keeping my UM2+ come hell of high water, but I am considering putting a UM3 next to it in my workshop, or possibly at the office I just rented for my association, with remote monitoring.
IzzySID
October 19, 2016, 8:08am
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Its a nice machine, very good quality as usual from Ultimaker which will handle long and continuous print runs, dual printing at long last although I’m not sure if just the nozzles can be replaced or it’s a whole nozzle assembly, I would hope the nozzles can be changed and for different sizes aka the Olsson and match less. There are a few improvements overall which I would hope will be upgrades for the UM2, the stiffer build platform for one.
The price is a bit high for the home hobbyist so likely aimed at small business/small workshops, but I’m sure it’s worth the price.
It seems to have good connectivity, with LAN, WiFi and USB, and I like the integrated camera. And I would hope the camera could be another upgrade to the UM2.
I’m not sure that the UM3 is as user modifiable as the UM2 with the added complication in the print head.
Would I want one? Based on my experience with my pimped UM2, HELL YES, but with the pound at the moment I’ll have to wait a while.
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Hoffa
October 19, 2016, 8:09am
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It’s been mentioned a couple of times, but this really isn’t meant as a replacement for the UM2(+).
Ultimaker will keep selling the UM2+ as well as the UM original, alongside the new Ultimaker 3. - They are all aimed at different audiences.
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Looks like it’s everything everyone wanted the UM2+ to be? Compare this to, for example the Felix Pro 1 (or newer Pro 2??) which has a very familiar feature set but a bigger build volume and a much better price, my choice would be simple. Also because I’ve seen some very impressive prints of the Felix Pro 1 printer, and with dual materials.
Running two UM2+'s at the moment of which I’m very satisfied with, I don’t think the UM3 will take place in my office very soon…
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My understanding is that an 800 micron nozzle is planned first. This will be a whole core (95 quid) though not just the nozzle. I have asked about a 250 micron nozzle.
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I am going to wait for some real youtube reviews, but I suspect I will buy one. I am not against tinkering with my UM2+ but the idea of a more reliable machine is appealing.
The Felix Pro 1 & 2 have a slightly larger print bed and with (from what I’ve seen) have a very good dual extrusion reliability and quality.
Ultimaker is a great brand of 3D printers and this is a valuable addition to the range.
A dual extruder adds significant advantages to a 3d printer both for personal and professional use and the webcam is a nice feature for remotely checking your prints. NFC tagging would not have been necessary since Cura already offers printing profiles and these also differ per print. A bigger build volume would have been nice but all in all I like the specs of this machine.
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3lian
October 19, 2016, 8:31am
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I think, that using: Ulticreatr 2X | Ulticreatr U might get same result using PVA or SM-310. So UM2(+) owners can use it.
Also autoleveling is done right with: http://3dprintingcenter.net/2016/05/14/odo-motion-a-sensor-for-auto-levelling-of-working-beds-of-3d-printers-available-in-the-offer-of-get3d/
IMHO Ultimaker haven’t done anything new, but they combine new ideas (like with Olson block before) to new printer.
Does UM3 worth it’s price? I think it does.
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We had a look at Ultimaker 3 and therefore have to say, it is really a good machine! But as mentioned before, this is not a printer for everybody. This printer has been developed for business user and starts the combat with Stratasys & Co. And yeah, this is not a UM2++. Although the housing and gears are as before, the nozzle is completely new and no more usable with Olsson Block. You have to change the whole hotend unit, which comes from start only with 0.4mm Nozzle.
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