Hi all!

Anyone know if someone in Montréal can print transparent parts under 0.5mm thick?

Let me know if you have leads or questions.

Thanks :slight_smile:

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Depends how transparent you want. I do have some natural PLA filament and depending on the design my printer head is 0.4mm so in theory I can do 0.4mm thick wall, but all depends on the part design and needs.

I can. It will be half transparent, and need to be processed with XTC 3D to be fully transparent.

Is it a big print? I did only one print in transparent and I post-process it and it was great. If you want I can send you a picture. I have Colorfabb XT ( transparent) and transparent T-Glase

Hi Mantra,

SLA or DLP printers like the Form 1+ from Formlabs usually get better results then FDM printers because of the way the resine is solidified it bouces less light back. That being said TGlase can get very good prints but it really depend on the model.

resine

http://formlabs.com/media/upload/\_thumbs/formlabs\_lens\_4.jpg.980x0\_q85.jpg

tglase:

http://taulman3d.com/uploads/3/1/1/2/3112210/\_5255474.jpg?561

Best,

PM

XTC looks great if it can work that well

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0151/1735/products/T-Glase\_XTC-3D.jpg?v=1422584844

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It does work well, I’ve tried it and I have made some great pieces with it.

I have bendlay and colorfabb xt transparent i can try. Can you send the model?

Hello Mantra514,

Yes we can do it.

We have a FormLabs 3D printer that can print in clear resin, so it’s transparent.

You can view an image here: http://formlabs.com/products/materials/standard/

It can create layers as thin as 25 microns, which is much finer than other desktop machines.

If you would like to print with us you can find our profile on 3D Hubs here: https://www.3dhubs.com/montreal/hubs/matterthings

We have a 3D print shop in Montreal with over 20 different 3D printers, if you would like to visit us and have additional questions: (514) 312-6060.

Thank you and hope to print for you soon!

Claudia @MatterThings.com

Hi Mantra,

i offer T-Glase (the material’s chemical name is PET, PET is the material that coke and water bottles are made out of) which is the most transparent material for FDM machines out there. However because of the way, that FDM machines produce 3d prints the filament is not transparent like glass. You get the best transparency if you print with a low resolution (high layers), but then again you will loose much detail in the print.

SLA prints (when clear resin is used obviously) are also very transparent and do not suffer details for transparency. Because of the price of resin compared to T-Glase usually SLA prints are much more expensive.

I printed a bowl out of T-Glase with one bottom layer and the outer shell out of one continous line, the result is extraordinary clear. You can see objects through the material, however everything is blurred (not even SLA prints would be glass clear) and you can see the lines between the layers on the bowl. This was no problem for me, the opposite was the case, because of the wavy outer surface the bowl got a special “touch” and has a really unique look.

To make it simple :

FDM prints with T-Glase are cheaper, but suffer detail

SLA prints with clear resin are expensive, but combine great detail and transparency.

The choise is yours, if you could post the model that you want to get printed I and others could tell you, if T-Glase would suit your needs or if you have to stick to SLA printing.

If you want more information just answer to this comment or request a quote on my Hub:

https://www.3dhubs.com/siegen/hubs/marius

I also offer other transparent materials like Colorfabb XT and Nylon, but neither of them have the focus in transparency.

XT is another kind of PET (but blended with other chemicals), it is made to be tough and resistant to physical and chemical

effects, XT is not specially made for transparency.

Nylon is milky-transparent, if your model is thick then Nylon will look white-ish, like milk in some way, however for thin parts Nylon is relatively transparent, again the focus is on toughness and physical properties, not on transparency so that’s why i would recommend T-Glase.

The maximum resolution on my printer is 0,02mm layer height (20micron), i have not jet tested T-Glase with so thin layers, but the recommendations from Taulman (the producer of T-Glase) is that thicker layers give more transparency. I could do some testing if you want to find a way of combining detail, price and transparency.

Hope this helps,

Marius

Montréal Hubs,

Thank you for all the replies and and the helpful information!

You’re all awesome :slight_smile:

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Hi Hugo, thanks for your input. Just a heads up that I’ve moderated your email out. Moving forward, would you please use a link to your Hub profile as a means of contact? Thanks

I’ve added two pictures of T-Glase to this comment:

Nice prints!

Hi! I use a B9Creator witch uses liquid resins cured by light from a video projector. I buy my resins clear transparent and mix in pigments and dies. The max size in XY is 102mm x 76mm. At this size of image, each pixel measures 0.1mmx 0,1mm so that’s the resolution. In z, the minimom thickness can be 0.15mm but then it’s fragile so 0.5mm is OK. The maximum hight of the model can be up to 200mm. Keep in mind it’s resins so they bend until they snap, they have some flexibility but not like ABS or PLA, more like acrylic.

Also keep in mind that when printing with transparent resin, you can’t print stuff with internal cavities because the transparent resin will not stop the light from penetrating as much as it can and cure the resin in holes and block them. Vertical holes are fine but horizontal cavities will be cured. So if you want to print with DLP technology in transparent material it’s only possible for models that will have no negative slopes and no internal cavities.

If words can’t be clear enough, I’ll upload some pictures.

Thanks!

Hey there @Mantra514. Looks like @Matterthings is your best bet in the Montreal area.

Cheers!

AndyL

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Thanks! However credit goes to taulman3d these are not my prints.

Thanks AndyL :slight_smile:

https://www.3dhubs.com/user/51322/dashboard/hub

Thats your private hub link. No one can go there but you.

Your public hub will work better:

https://www.3dhubs.com/montreal/hubs/hugo-0

Mantra514,

You are very welcome, if I can give you any further details about your prints please let me know. It will be my great pleasure to answer your questions!

Romain Huon