Rostock Max V2 vs Lulzbot Taz 5

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T16:40:57.000Z

mayhem. would you perhaps have a few pictures to share of your prints on the metal plus?

I tried to pick up a lulzbot on the cheap (new) but it didnt meet reserve.

2200 is a lot to spent on a printer, especially if i can get this for much less but similar quality.

Ive never used the dual extruder (at the same time) on my flashforge, so i dont know if i would on the lulz, or pmp

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T16:57:36.000Z

I am not someone who likes to wait either… lead times on the printrbot metal plus is a long time haha

Mayhem · 2015-03-05T17:07:57.000Z

Yeah, sorry I was trying to get my print to stick on the rostock and it was being a pain. Here’s a print that just finished on it. And honestly when I ordered mine it shipped in less then a week even thought the lead time was a month. Also, sorry about potato quality.

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dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T17:33:23.000Z

so that spool holder, yeah, quality is not there, but overall would you say the quality is very good?

ive heard really good things, and not so good… this is a HARD decision for sure.

Mayhem · 2015-03-05T17:37:07.000Z

It’s a really crappy photo, it actually looks quite good in person. I was talking about potato quality photo, sorry. Yeah they make amazing prints I think and so do my customers.

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T18:27:17.000Z

where are you at mayhem? would you be ok letting me taking a look at it?

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T18:57:39.000Z

they are sold out of the dual extruder w/ heated plate.

wondering how hard it would be to upgrade to the dual extruder.

Im VERY impatient haha. i should totally wait til i come back from vegas the middle of april, give myself more gambling money, but thats not how i roll

Mayhem · 2015-03-05T19:21:12.000Z

Yeah that has been sold out for a while. For the simple metal its just another board and a slightly different Hotend/exturder plate so I would think this one wouldn’t be much different. As far as a visit that would be up to the lord and master of all, the wife. We live in des moines but our shop is out in Blairsburg because industrial space is cheap and we have family out that way.

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T22:30:36.000Z

Maybe i dont need a dual extruder, since I do have one on my other printer… hmmm interesting… how do you feel the auto leveling sensor works? once calibrated, even if the bed gets unlevel it should be able to sense that and adjust each print right?

right now im leveling often

Mayhem · 2015-03-05T22:41:58.000Z

I’ve never do to re-level mine. I have it set to use the cura slicer and before each print it does a 3 point level check and corrects to any issues although being screwed down to a metal frame that doesn’t happen unless the sheet of PEI over it comes loose or something. A heck of a lot easier then the rostock… in fact im tempted to rig a probe onto it if it will register the bed. Its great, almost set a forget really.

dunginhawk · 2015-03-05T22:47:10.000Z

yeah i wondered that too, if you can add a zprobe to the rostock :).

its a tough choice man… 2000 for the lulzbot and a little bigger bed, or 1200 for the metal plus.

Mayhem · 2015-03-05T23:56:01.000Z

Yeah I can imagine. I don’t think it fesable on the rostock because it detects metal at a pretty close prox and it has to see through all that glass. For the most part its going fine without that but it sure would be nice.

dunginhawk · 2015-03-06T15:12:12.000Z

have you ever heard about http://www.3dprinterworks.net/creatorbot-3d-pro-packag3.html

large build volume. solid price… it looks intriguing…

dunginhawk · 2015-03-06T21:29:01.000Z

have you ever heard about http://www.3dprinterworks.net/creatorbot-3d-pro-packag3.html

large build volume. solid price… it looks intriguing…

Mayhem · 2015-03-06T21:50:49.000Z

That is intriguing… No I’ve never heard of it but now I may have a bit of printer envy… Which is not good for the wallet…

dunginhawk · 2015-03-06T21:54:23.000Z

I dont find ANY video reviews or reviews in general online at all, so thats concerning. However they JUST finished their kickstarter backer orders, so its now available.

I reached out to the owner to ask a few questions. Ill let you know what he says.

Sounds like some folks may have a few issues, according to their forums/ Wonder how many are in the field.

Mayhem · 2015-03-06T22:23:41.000Z

Ehh, that’s what I was worried about… I’ve been burned by a bunch of kick starter projects for printers and printer acc… And the fact there is no press or anything worries me more…

KC_703 · 2015-04-09T02:24:35.000Z

I upgraded to the TAZ 5 from a Printrbot Simple Metal. There are pro’s and con’s to both.

PB’s compact direct drive extruder is really clean and nice. Both are built really well, PB uses hardened rods and metal linear bearings. Autoprobe is very nice.

The TAZ 5 uses a 24VDC, which allows the bed and hotend to heat up much faster… 240C hotend in 2-3 minutes, 100C+ bed in 4-5 minutes. The design is classic, and fairly open sourced so upgrades can be made for a larger print area or creating a best of breed machine. Little to no loss of print volume with a dual extruder. PEI bed is really nice for printing ABS, almost no warping and basic things like brim and heat can remedy. LCD is nice for overriding print controls. The frame and connectors seem well thought out and industrial / factory grade.

Both have moving beds which can be challenging since neither have an enclosure.

If I could meld the two I’d want::

- TAZ 5 as the foundation (PEI bed, frame)

- PB compact direct drive extruder and Bowden… saves weight on the toolhead

- PB autoprobe

- Upgrade TAZ with hardened rods and metal linear bearing

- Build an enclosure

ThreeRPlastics · 2015-04-23T22:45:57.000Z

I appreciate this feedback as I recently purchased a TAZ 5 and I am doing some strong double takes after seeing the $999 price point of the Printrbot.

dunginhawk · 2015-04-24T13:22:34.000Z

I ended up getting a Makerfarm Prusa I3v 12" so i have a 12 x 12 x 12 build platform and all in for about $700.

I added auto bed leveling to it (and it works great). Im still working (havent had much time to play lately) on getting it all dialed in, but once thats done, its a really nice machine for the price.

I still love the idea of the Taz, just 3x the cost