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Jul 2017

Hello,

I’m having very bad time tryng to print PETG, primaSELECT PETG Solid Silver.
I have tried thier temperatures, among with lower settings, prusa settings, increase extruding rate to 1.11 based on my calcs, change retraction but nothing helped, problems at any settings i try!
Print well with Prusa PETG and Moebyus PETG without any problem but this primaselect is a pain.
Also create a lot of strings.
I’m using latest Slic3r Prusa Edition with MK2S stock

Anyone know the cause or had this filament brand?

First Layer:

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First layer looks to close or thin. Raise your Live z. PETG does not like being squished. Also print slow.

Measure your filament and enter the value in the slicer. One PETG I use is consistently 1.7 instead of 1.75. this can make a difference.

If you are getting accumulations on the nozzle then you will need to reduce the extrusion multiplier not raise it but only by small increments.

Thank you, i raise to 0.300 instead of 0.200 and solved my problem.

Still model come with imperfections

Bottom layer come all good, no imperfection
With this setting i got a bit less of strings, still not that less.
Also surface is not clean as other filaments, a tiny dot of filament is left on top layer but that can be easly cleaned, no more than 20 dots.
And last it left some scars on model

Seens this PETG melt at lower temps, i’m using the max recommened 230-235 but it works at 190. Can this be a problem in terms of resistance?

Bottom Layer: http://i.imgur.com/OcDDaTs.jpg 163

Scars: http://i.imgur.com/5AqebUF.jpg 110

Scraths: http://i.imgur.com/rPrzVf3.jpg 92

Strings: http://i.imgur.com/N1EIMu7.jpg 97

I print this without setting overextrude overall, my calcs give 1.11% rate but i print a test model and come worse than 1%. Also in octoprint i use to extrude 100mm at 111 rate and it stop exactly at same position if i use prusa lcd controls to extrude 100mm. Can’t understand this, if flow rate is 0.11% more why it stops exactly at same height? :frowning:

Most PETG that I have seen has a temp range of 230-250. If this extrudes at 190 I would be somewhat suspicious of it. That is really low.

In general PETG is probably going to want a slight under extrusion.
As far as extrusion I would use the Prusa default and only adjust a little from there. You will want to calibrate the extruder at some point. You will need to go to the Prusa forum or google on how to do it for that machine.

You can work with the retraction settings for the stringing. Some filament brands are worse than others.

Print speed will also play a factor. Overall I used the default PET settings in Slic3r PE for PETG then adjust a little to fine tune and it has worked good.

I do not use Octoprint but if you are just telling it to extrude X amount then that is all it is doing so whether it is from the control panel or Octoprint it is the same.

I think the flow rate doesn’t matter there. You are just telling it to move 100mm of filament or what it thinks is 100mm.

On box they say:

Print temp: 195-235ºc

Bed temp: 35-60ºc (On website they say heatbed no required)

I have to say that i test low temp, like 200 and 210, but it comes a little weak and tends to not stick well.

Prusa PET profile works well for this, i have cloned the profile and change temperature to 230-235 and bed to 50-55. Since this print with lower bed temperature is good, bed take a lot of time to heat up at high temperatures and also spare electricity

About retraction i tried many different settings and run a test model that i found on thingverse, didn’t help.

But i will keep testing, it must have an optimal setting

Can this be any kind of easy to print PETG?

I just buy this because its accessible in europe, i can’t find eSun PETG inside europe.

Bottom line is that not all filament is created equal.

I pretty much run at default retraction. It may just be the way this particular filament or color is being more stringy.

I have a purple PLA that is very stringy and the red in the same brand doesn’t string at all.

Google about printing PETG. Lots of info. It’s fussy stuff but once you get it dialed in it is very good.

After print a Marvin at 0.100um the results are quite positive.

Just small imperfections at left ear and bottom bridge. No Post-Process






26 days later

Bad experience too here with PrimaSelect PETG, even exactly the same color … Looks best at 220-225C (fan Off), retract 1.2@20 gives almost no stringing, but the resulting things even not looking that bad are super fragile - no, they do not delaminate, they broke with bare hands …

My problem was calibration, since my bed are distorced, i have to modify firmware to support 9 point manual calibration, it solve my problem. I found this filament to be strong, do you use a heatbed? Please see my review on thing verse, you have a temp tower

Yes you shound’t quit, keep trying, it must work somehow