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Apr 2015

hi guys

If you suppose that there are some vibration when I increase the speed, the first think that all the people think is: oh, the printer is bad, I should reduce the speed. But if you digg in the science and if you study all the problems around you can discover that you can remove all the problems. There are some frequencies that are called natural frequencies of materials. An example? See the resonance effect. For all the problems of resonance there are some rubber support that reduce the vibration. Another problem is the slides and the lubrification. Every material when is coupled has different surface contacts. And each one require the calibrated oil. And the error? Has anyone discovered what is the precision of all the position in our machine? This is the mechanical part of the problem that should be solved.

It highly depends on the nozzle size and plastic type

I’m using 3000 mm/min (50mm/s) maximum when printing PLA using a 0.4mm nozzle @ 210C, beyond that it jams

When using the 0.8mm nozzle I was able to go 4800mm/min (that’s 80mm/s) using PLA at the same temperature

I have a prusa i3 rework

I just ran my big delta at 1000mm/s (using a smoothie board) doing a marvin in PLA in under 10 min, quality was rough but it was a really good speed test, I’m now going to up the acceleration further, here’s a link to the vid

Cheers

Jason

As you try to print faster, a high static speed isn’t really the major factor on how fast a machine can print, it’s acceleration. Your actual speed is quite likely never being reached (especially on smaller parts) due to acceleration limits. Just want to clarify that.

Fast moving delta machines are wonderful, but the limiting factor is often how fast you can extrude the plastic, not how fast the machine can move. A commonly recognized print volume upper limit for most extruders is around 8 to10mm3/s. To figure out how fast you’re trying to extrude your plastic you simply multiply your nozzle diameter with the layer height and speed. So for example, if you’re printing with 0.2mm layers at 60mm/s you would do: 0.4*0.2*60 = 4.8mm 3/s. You might be able to exceed an 8-10mm3/s volume of you really crank up the heat on the extruder. If you don’t, you will encounter rapidly increasing extruder feeding pressure which will cause extruder skipping or filament stripping. However, the problem with higher extruder temperatures is that you risk decomposing the filament and jamming the nozzle tight as a drum when the extruder stops feeding filament.

When you see someone claim they can print at some outlandish speed - do the math. The current extruder technology has limits that can’t be violated.

I havent myself but im seeing a lot of praise for it on the g+ communities. Only reason I havent got one though is because the majority of what I print needs high resolution and with the volcano you are sacrificing resolution for speed and strength.

The volcano is an exception - sort of. By that I mean that if you have a print nozzle the size of a hot glue gun, you are obviously going to be able to extrude much more volume per second. But I think that most of us would like to have more resolution - not dramatically less.

One point worth noting is that PLA can be pushed farther than ABS, Nylon, and most other filaments. PLA has a significantly lower viscosity at printing temperatures. But, there are still limits. PLA seems to strip easier than ABS at high feed pressures.

Thanks KDan, this makes sense. I will do the math for my printer and see if I have reached the limit yet :slight_smile:

Hi. Owner of a Reprapro Mendel, I actually print at 60mm/s for perimeters and 75mm/s for infill. I did not try more since a while.