jcamper
December 20, 2016, 2:53pm
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Has anyone bought one of the new Airwolf AXIOM 20?
If so what is your thoughts?
I do not own the Axiom 20, however I have owned several other Airwolf printers and currently have an HDR. A colleague of mine used the Axiom 20 on a project and overall his experience with it was satisfactory throughout a 5 week project. It wasn’t the best layer precision quality we’ve seen in a printer in that price range and for 10k you’d expect a lot better quality on printed components. I wasn’t pleased that Axiom 20 used plexiglass on the enclosed chamber instead of tempered glass, similar to the Makerbot z18 (priced at $7k, single extrusion, no heated bed, only PLA capable, in no way a comparison). The LCD was pretty much useless but that is typical on most consumer level 3d printers…which brings me to the next point: It sits on a fine line between consumer and prosumer/commercial level printers. It’s priced extremely high for “what it is ” and I’ve heard from several 3d printer manufacturers that they were shocked at the price of the Axiom 20, however I have yet to see those same people come to the table with a printer of their own with the same build size and capability while being priced aggressively.
I know from owning 3 dual extrusion FDM printers for 4 years now, that we/I rarely ever use the dual extrusion capability. However your purpose may differ. I also know that at one point my engineers were largely focused on build size/volume…but in reality, most components we designed and the ones that (already) exist in the 3d printing universe are mostly on the small-to-medium scale in object model size. PLA/ABS/PETG after all …do cost money , larger prints obviously cost more money (you could argue that buying material in bulk provides discounts). I wouldn’t recommend the Axiom 20 at its current price (roughly $9,500-10k), it should be priced around $5,200.
There are simple things that you could request from Airwolf prior to purchasing that could further help your decision though. I’d ask them to print you a Marvin keychain, a Bridge test (Test your 3D printer! v3 by ctrlV - Thingiverse ) at finest/highest settings, and a circular object requiring numerous retractions like this (Mac OSX paper bin by lukasbieri - Thingiverse ) with Ninjaflex, or another similar flexible material… with the stock nozzle it comes with. This is a completely fair request, specifically for anyone looking to spend $10k on a 3d printer. If they are not willing to do that, they don’t deserve your business. I haven’t had a single company yet refuse my pre-purchase print requests.
Hope this helps
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I would suggest this printer for 3.5K:
https://www.raise3d.com/collections/3d-printer/products/raise3d-n2-plus-pre-order-fdm-3d-printer?variant=18505713473
Much stable print bed, good electronics.
Ask a test prints from them as Starkindustries adviced.
Tamas
I have worked with Air wolf at a Job of mine and I just have to say I hate them with a burning passion.
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jcamper
December 27, 2016, 4:14am
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What makes you say that? What kind of stuff do you print? Is there one you would recommend?
Sorry I know that was broad it’s just when I hear the name air wolf I have a reaction to the name. For starters it’s 3mm which does not give great detail would rather use 1.75mm it is a Bowden tube which you should watch out for in any 3D printer and is a pain to calibrate with leveling the bed and the Z-axis adjustments. It also has bad bed adhesion. I recremond Power Spec Pro 3D printer (same as flash forge) The new pursia printers (pursia research) lulzbot printers and finialy the new Makerbots. I do print viruses in large scale so I am pretty demanding on what my printer does.
Jacob